Well it was inevitable. This cancer has gradually creeped into other white countries as they have become more racially diverse. It was inevitable that it would happen here as we became more racially diverse too. You see, it doesn’t matter that we were victims, rather than perpetrators of colonialism. It doesn’t matter that our people were discriminated against for hundreds of years. It doesn’t matter that our ancestors experienced borderline genocides at various points throughout history (the famine, Cromwell, the Plantations, etc). It doesn’t matter that our country has allowed people of other races to live among us (without giving us the option to vote on whether we wanted to or not).
We still have privilege apparently, and need to feel ashamed of ourselves because of it.
The expression “white privilege” has been around for years but “white skin privilege” has recently been repopularised in the US, where numerous African-American deaths at the hands of police have ignited the Black Lives Matter movement.
I’m not going to go through this yet again. I’ll just leave this here instead because it already has the appropriate response.
Broadly speaking, it means the interlocking societal benefits that Caucasians in the West enjoy – benefits that non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances can only look at from the outside, like kids pressed up against a sweet shop window.
Yes who would have thought that members of the dominant population demographic of a country would be the ones to feel most comfortable in a society that was built by people of that very same demographic? I guess we should stop creating a society which suits the needs of the majority, and instead create one that suits minorities. If we don’t, they’ll call us mean names like “racist” or “white supremacist”, or try to shame us for our “white privilege”.
In Ireland – a country where up until very recently anyone not 100 per cent white and Christian was seen as something different – white privilege is rooted in the blissful unawareness of the obstacles people of colour experience. The failure to see the destructive attitudes that exist in our communities; our collective neglect in making this land inhospitable for racist ideas and actions.
If Ireland, much like every other white majority country is such a horrible, racist place, in which non-white people are treated like shit, then why is it that so many of them want to live in the same countries as us so badly? Surely, they would be much happier living in countries in which they don’t have to deal with us horrible white people, but for some reason, they never seem to consider that option. Instead, they just moan constantly about how terrible we all are, and try to shame us into changing our ways somehow. At the same time, they never seem to state any specific demands on how exactly they think we should change, so we never seem to progress beyond the moaning stage, followed by a load of self-hating white people beating themselves up over some perceived injustice they feel guilty about by virtue of being white. Personally, I’m sick of it. As a white guy myself, I have absolutely no desire to oppress any “people of colour”. I just want to get on with my life and not listen to your constant whining about how terrible my race is.
This is yet more proof that despite the constant lies that we’re told to the contrary, in actuality, diversity is not a strength.
The best example I have is my own life. I’m half-Asian, but with plenty of white people here to blend in with, I pretty much pass for white on the street. It would be hard for me to deny that it’s made my life easier. Nobody has ever told me to go back to my own country or denied my right to identify as an Irish person. No stranger has ever targeted me with a racial slur.
So he hasen’t actually experienced racial abuse then in Ireland? So what exactly is the problem here? Is he actually just some closet white supremacist who wishes he was fully white, and regards his Asian half as being inferior somehow? Because that sounds horribly familiar.
Jokes aside, I don’t think this guy has anything in common with Elliot Roger, other than the fact that they are (were in Roger’s case), half white, half Asian. But seriously, this is absolutely ridiculous. The guy hasn’t experienced racial abuse, yet he has come to the conclusion that it’s only because he “passes for white”. Did it ever occur to him that maybe, just maybe, people can tell that he’s half-Asian, but they don’t racially abuse him, because they simply do not care?
I inadvertently benefit from white privilege; except, of course, online when my foreign-sounding surname means it’s open season.
Without examples, we only have his word for this.
White privilege is different to overt prejudice and the majority of Irish people deplore naked, boilerplate racism, of course. But one of its defining traits is that those who benefit may be unaware that they do so.
Oh yes, the whole “you can’t see your privileges” argument. Of course, if we were to point out the privileges that non-white racial minorities have such as, for example, the privilege to make sweeping judgements about all white people, without being shamed as a racist for doing so, they wouldn’t see them either. How about the privilege of knowing that other races have the right to a homeland of their own, in which their race can guarantee it’s survival and continuation as a distinct demographic, whereas all white people, have to live in multicultural societies, in which it will be impossible to do the same thing. Inevitably, if things continue the way they’re going, we will become minorities in our own countries and be overrun by other races. Those other races meanwhile will always have countries, in which their own race will remain the majority.
There are plenty of Irish people who will look away when a person of colour – born here or not – points to race-based prejudice.
Because it gets thrown around so much that it begins to lose all meaning. In all honesty, everyone holds some level of racial prejudice. In fact, even infants with no concept of race, show preference for their own. In other words, it seems to be a hardwired, biological instinct, rather than a learned behaviour.
This doesn’t mean that treating members of another race like shit because of their race is justified in any way. It simply means that people of all races, have a natural, in built preference to be around other people of their own. Kin selection, but on a larger scale essentially. So why is it that only white people are shamed for exhibiting this natural, biological, instinctive behaviour, when every other races feels it too? This is basically getting into the area of thought crime, were white people are automatically just as evil and monstrous as the Nazis, just because they feel more comfortable around other white people. That is wrong.
They’ve created their own bubble, unaffected by the same discrimination, that denies its existence. They will contort themselves into pretzels to stop it from being burst.
Or maybe we’re just too busy dealing with our own personal problems and struggles to deal with his issues. Again, what exactly does he want us to do? He and other like him keep moaning about the alleged discrimination they face, but they never seem to suggest anything that we can do to perhaps solve it.
Take the case of Samia Jalal, who applied for the same job at a Dublin radio station under two different names: her own and the more traditionally Melanin-deprived name of Neville. One was accepted for an interview and the other received a rejection notice. The excuse from the company that this was nothing more sinister than an “administrative error” seems beyond the realms of believability. Jalal hit social media with facts and evidence, but her claims were met with derision.
Finally, a specific case, rather than just vague and unspecified moaning. Assuming this story is completely above board and not a hoax, then I fully agree that this was wrong on the part of the employer. However, this is not evidence of a systematic problem.
And then there is the popular @Ireland Twitter account – which sees a different person curate it each week in an attempt to paint a broad picture of contemporary Irish society. It suffered numerous racist attacks when Michelle Marie, a black woman, took the wheel.
This might have something to do with the fact that the indigenous ethnic Irish population are racially white. By having a black woman in control of the @Ireland twitter account, it symbolically (whether intentional or not) is a reminder of the fact that we are being gradually ethnically replaced in our own ancestral homeland, and this bothers us on an instinctive level. I don’t agree with the racial abuse directed towards the woman, but I will say that it does offend me that she was the face chosen to control our country’s twitter account, because it almost seems as if it was done to mock us about being displaced in our own country. Could you imagine the outrage if a white person was given control of the twitter account of some random African country for example? People would be outraged, saying it was yet another example of “white privilege” or “neo-colonialism” or something along those lines. So why is it that we can’t be offended when the same thing happens to us?
Captain Sweden, played by a black actor. Read the comments to see how this went down.
The Last Word on Today FM had a segment on the back of this that discussed racism in Ireland. It featured an all-white panel. *
You should be grateful for the fact that they even took the time to have such a panel at all. As I’ve said before, only white people are indigenous to Ireland. All non-white people are here because we were generous enough to allow them in, and they then came here, either by their own choice, or that of their parents. If the country is so racist, then why did they choose to not only come here, but to stay?
Perhaps that’s why the Irish slave myth has surfaced. The indentured servitude experienced by Irish immigrants in America is being compared to the horrors of perpetual chattel slavery as a way of delegitimising black suffering. It’s horribly inaccurate.
Ok, a few facts about the slave trade.
- The Arab slave trade went on for far longer than the Atlantic slave trade and was far more brutal in its treatment of slaves (the West didn’t castrate their slaves for example). Arabs also enslaved black people, just like white Western countries, but nobody tries to shame Arabs for what their ancestors did.
- While the United States may have generated the most wealth from slave labour (I’m not certain, I’d need to do further research), it was actually Brazil , not America which had the highest number of African slaves out of any country in the Americas.
- Those African slaves were originally enslaved by other Africans, and then sold to Europeans afterwards at slave markets. This doesn’t mean that the white Europeans are blameless of course. It just means that they weren’t the only guilty party, and shouldn’t take all the blame.
- All races have practiced slavery at some point in history, and all races have been victims of it. It wasn’t just white people who enslaved other races, and white people themselves have been enslaved too throughout history.
- There were free black people in America who themselves owned slaves. One of the the largest slave owners in America was a black man by the name of William Ellison. There was also Anthony Johnson, and Antoine Dubuclet.
- In fact, it was because of the actions of the black man, Anthony Johnson that chattel slavery even began in America. Before then, indentured servitude existed, and slaves would eventually be freed after a few years of service, but he wanted to keep his slave, John Casor permanently, took his case to court, and was awarded ownership of him for life. That set the precedent which followed for all slaves in America.
- Most of the major slave ships in the Atlantic slave trade were run by Dutch Jews, rather than white Christians, but this is never brought up because doing so would be “anti-semitic”. Yet it’s perfectly OK to lay such blame on “white people” in general.
- Western civilisations (led by Britain) were the first civilisations to willingly choose to abolish slavery. Every other culture in the world had to have abolition forced upon them by the West. Most would have kept practicing it if not for Western efforts to make it illegal on a global scale. Parts of Africa and the Middle East still practice it today even though it’s illegal globally.
- America fought a bloody civil war to end slavery because those who fought to end it knew it was wrong. Yet their white descendants are still made to feel guilty for slavery anyway.
- Only a small percentage of white Americans actually owned slaves. Some estimates say as little as 1%, some as high as 5%. Yet all white people are made to feel shame for this in America today even though they weren’t alive for it, and chances are, their ancestors weren’t involved either.
Just to be clear, I’m not justifying slavery in any way because it was wrong, no matter where it was practiced. However, I do take offence to this idea of only ever talking about the experiences of black slaves at the hands of white people in white majority countries, as if those are the only slaves whose experiences matter. I guess it’s another example of our white privilege. We have the privilege of having our entire race share the guilt for what other white people did hundreds of years ago, and the privilege of having the suffering of members of our own race at the hands of other races ignored as if it doesn’t matter.
In 2016, people of colour’s modern-day torments are still being marginalised. Prejudice isn’t being called out.
If anything, it’s being called out too much, even in situations were it isn’t even true. But by all means, keep living in your fantasy land, were white people aren’t living in constant terror that someone might think they’re a racist, and that any accusation of such, doesn’t potentially destroy their reputations.
Victims of racism are being met with suspicion.
Probably because the race card is pulled so often, that people are naturally suspicious that it’s yet another false or exaggerated claim. Don’t blame us for being suspicious. Blame those who have overused the term “racist”, to the point were it has lost all meaning.
When it comes to race relations, there’s plenty of distance left to run.
Again, with the vague and unspecified statements. If there is a specific race problem, then say what it is, and then we can have a conversation and try to resolve it. These vague comments just come off as moaning, and aren’t constructive in the slightest.
White privilege is real and it’s in Ireland.
Needless to say, I disagree.